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A Carol Yearwood put a message in guest book on Oct. 18,2001 saying that she was related to the Baker Family. She did not leave any way to get in touch with her. If I can get an e-mail address I would like to talk to Carol Yearwood.
I've learned much about my geneology from viewing this web site. Thank you! Barbara Brennan
Hi everyone! John T. Baker was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather. My Grandfather, Curtis Baker, has gathered a significant amount of information about the Massacre, which I very much enjoy reading. I find it very important that all descendants of the families involed in this tragic event in American history learn as much as possible about the incident, and not let their story be forgotten. I hope to visit the Memorial soon, and I would also like to hike/backpack the area.
William Miller did not die at Mountain Meadows. He remained in Utah against his will by a family named Tate. He was 9 years old at the time of the killing. He was injured, however, with a deep cut below his right eye. He remained with the Tates for 3 years until up around late December of 1859. At the age of thirteen, William Miller, who by now went by the name of Billy Tate, joined the Pony Express in December of 1859. He told everyone that he would someday get revenge on the Mormons by killing the same amount of the "saints" that they killed at the meadows in 1857. His ambitions were cut short however, as in 1861 while delivering a saddle bag full of mail from Carson City to Camp Ruby, Nevada he was ambushed by a war party of Pah Ute Indians. His horse was struck from behind by a few arrows and could no longer take Billy any further. Billy jumped off his horse and took refuge behind a huge boulder and prepared to sell his life at a high price. Amazingly, his horse delivered its mail to the next relay station on its own. Alerted by the riderless mustang, station tenders took off in search of Billy Tate (William Miller). His body was discovered with several arrows in it. However, seven dead Indians were also laying around. He was not scalped, for the Indians that survived Billy's defense respected courage, even in the eyes of a foe. Billy Tate (William Miller) is buried somewhere in the Nevada desert between Carson City and the old historic Pony Express relay station that was called Camp Ruby.
Hi, I am the Trails Coordinator for Clark County, Nevada. I work with Hal Steiner when ever possible on OST projects. I am aware of sections of the trail through Nevada designated on the National Historic Register. Hal is out of the country at this time. I was wondering if you have a map of the designation. My address is Kristine Roberts, Clark County Comprehensive Planning, 500 Grand Central Parkway, Las Vegas, NV, 89123 (702) 455-5198. Thanks so much
If you are related to the victims of the massacre, please send me your name,address, e-mail address and connection. I'm compiling info on the descendants. 4norris@eritter.net; 545 CR 846, Omaha, AR 72662. Thanks.
My Great Grandfather Henry Arnold III was in the Utah Militia sometime around the period of the massacre. However, that time frame is missing from family history Questionable to say the least. My Mother's maiden name was Ingram..(Two Ingrams were lost in the massacre)
Traveled on the old Highway 91 in the area of Enterprise-St. George-Cedar City many times. Unaware of the massacre, even though I was raised Mormon.
Paul Arnold
My family came to California in 1857. Surnames were Abbott/Epperson/Fine and others, all from Arkansas. My gggrandfathers half brother, Dan Abbott, said in an interview in 1913, that they camped next to the Fancher party in Salt Lake City. He said that his party decided to take the "Northern Route" (to rejoin the California Trail in Idaho) while the Fanchers took the "Southern Route" through southern Utah. He said this became a very important decision. I'm sure they had friends in that wagon train. I'm glad there is a committed effort to preserve this incident in history. What we learn from history, hopefully, will prevent things like this from happening again.
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I found out about this massacre a few years ago and today saw it again on the history channel. Every time I think about what the Mormons did and the fact that they sold the live stock and clotheing of these poor people and stole the smaller children allways makes me as mad at them as I am about the 9 11 attack. I have, in the past, asked Mormons that have come to my door about what happened to the people of that attack, They always find some excuse to leave and not come back, or deny that it happened. I know that these people, that were murdered are O'K in God's kingdom are safe and are loved, but the idea that the Mormons still try to hide the truth and then talk about there idea of a better world is very disturbing. Ken C
Over a year ago I found the "Halstead" name on this site but the name is no longer listed. It was not a relative so I did not document the source. With the History Channel showing of the MMM on 11-26-01 I checkedgain and the name is gone.
This is a wonderful site. I commend you for what you have put together and continue to maintain.
Having received no information since the Memorial Dedication, of which I attended, I am so pleased to get back in touch through the internet. My address has changed and perhaps that is why I received no communication. I am the great grandaughter of Prudence Angline Dunlap Koen. Prudence was a daughter of Lorenzo and Nancy Dunlap, and a survivor of the massacre. My address is smr1reams@aol.com or #12 Wilderness Way Austin, Texas 78644
Just to set the record straight for John Dauters, Mr Ron Loving is not, never was, never will be an LDS. He is descended from Alexander Fancher's older brother, John Fancher.
My g.g. grandmother Olive Olivia Curtis Coombs was murdered in Cedar City, UT by George Wood in 1862 reportedly for asking too many questions and writing down information in a black ledger about the massacre (i.e. Juanita Brook's book). From what I have been able to gather, she was not gathering up information about the masscare. But, was trying to find out which settlers stole the family worldly goods in 1860 when her husband died alone in a meadow near Beaver, UT.
My great grandmother was Priscilla Klingensmith Urie, a child not returned to her family and kept by Phillip Klingensmith.
It is obvious to me after researching all the data I could ascertain about the Mountain Meadows Massacre that the LDS church did commit this atrocity and that it was ordered by church hiearchy (Brigham Young). The evidence from the remains of the victems also demonstrates that few if any Native Americans were involved in the killing which leaves the Mormon malitia solely responsible (see John D Lee's confession and the Counsel of Indian Cheifs' statement). I must also question Ron Loving's loyalty to his LDS religion; it appears that he must be receiving royalties from the church for his efforts in suppressing any literature that brings the truth out regarding the Mormon killing field. His vehement attitude in defending the LDS position is obvious and reprehensive. All this talk on your website about forgiveness is in vain when the crime is not confessed, covered up and denied. Sincerely, John Dauters
My step-mother is Ina Lee Moore. She is . dau of Oscar Garrett Moore & Trena Mae Marlow .. gdau of Dudley David Marlow & Josephine Fancher ... g-gdau of Henry Clay Fancher & Isabella A. Johnson .... gg-gdau of Grey Bynum Fancher & Sarah Ann Daniels ..... ggg-gdau of Richard Fancher & Sarah Journegin my email is: tomaabels@aol.com hers is: giabels@juno.com This is a very nice site. I have some additional info on her side of the family if you are interested.
Please help?! I believe my husband to be the great great grandson of Prudence Dunlap. Being that his mother passed before we were married her full name escapes me at the moment but her maiden name is Koen. Can you direct me to a Dunlap/Koen family tree? I'd love to trace his heritage and pass it on to our futher children. Thanks, Audra Ables
It has been a long traveled road for me in tracking my "Wood's And to learn the way they had died brought Great sadness to me - I look forward in paying my respects to all those that Lost There Lifes....
Thanks for creating this site-
Stephanie
I am a post graduate student of American History at Charleston Southern University currently working on a research project about the massacre.I wish to become a middle school social studies teacher soon. Your web page is very informative-Thank You!
I'm trying to get a hold of Mr. Ronald E Loving. My great great grandfather married a presumed survivor of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. If anyone here can contact Mr. Loving, could you have him email me @ greggory67@aol.com Thank you. Gregg Wood
It's too bad that this ever happened. But, the terrorism has repeated itself on that same day. September 11, 2001...
Just today we visited a family cemetery in Johnson County, AR. Upon being told of the Massacre, we were appalled that we had never heard of it. This has to be one of the first acts of terrorism in our country. History repeats itself if we do not learn from it. And to learn, we must uncover the truth. A truth shaped not by political or church dogma, but truth in and of itself.
Great site! I am attempting to determine if Gilbert Chauncy Webb, Jr. was a participant in the Mountain Meadow Massacre. He was involved in the Wham Paymaster Robbery in Graham County, Arizona on May 11, 1889 (see URL: www.jtraintours.com) and was rumored to have been a participant. Your search engine was not able to locate any Webb's. References would be helpful. I am researching material for a biography on Gilbert Webb. Thanks
I had never heard about the Mountain Meadows Massacre until my teacher assigned me to write a paper on it. It's interesting to see the views of the LDS Church, the Mountain Meadows Association, Relatives, and the Historians. It's hard to decipher what really happened and who is to blame.
While on a road trip with my teenage son this past August, we discovered when looking at a Utah map, that there is a Mountain Meadows Memorial Site. Since it was close to the highway we were on we decided to take the time to visit the site. Imagine my surprise to find a good sized paved parking lot and an actual memorial complete with informational plaques. It is hard to describe how it felt to be there. Over the years I have read different articles on the massacre including the account given by Martha and Sarah Baker. Standing there looking through the viewing tubes and reading the names on the wall, I felt a connection with my relatives. Thank you for the association's work in mounting and preserving the memorial and grave sites.
Hey, what happened to the person's remarks that used to be here pertaining to one of her relatives whose name appeared in the list of the dead on the monument but who later was found to be alive in California? I found that interesting. Does anyone know where I can find her remarks again?
The October TwoThousandOne AMERICAN HERITAGE Magazine's article on Mountain Meadows led me to this site. I am stunned and sad. How this atrocity has been covered up over the years is just unbelievable.
I feel the tremendous effort many of us have made through the years has finally borne fruit in that so much progress has been made. The Church seems to have developed a new attitude toward this historic tragedy; attitudes in Arkansas are not as hostile as they once were; more information has been released; and "forgiveness is a measure of our love" seems to have been adopted by many of us who revere the history of the Mountain Meadow Massacre. During the past five or six years I certainly have not been as active as I would have liked in the events that have transpired due to family situations. However, I pledge to rejoin the Mountain Meadow Association and do all that I can to assist in furthering the efforts and plans of the Association.
I NEVER NEW THAT IT WAS ARE FAMILY THAT WAS IN THE MASSACRE,IT WAS FOR MY GRANDMOTHER THAT SHOWED ME THE HATRED THAT HAD HAPPEN TO US AND OTHER BELOVED ONE'S.MY GRANDMOTHER'S NAME IS ANITI B KOEN/HOLMES. ARE FAMILY IS CAMERON,DUNLAP,BAKER,GOD REST THERE SOUL'S.AND THE ONE'S THAT STILL HURT FROM THE HATRED SO MEANY YEAR'S AGO GOD BLESS YOU ALL..
Your site is very interesting and informative. I had remembered just bits and pieces of Mountain Meadows and was glad to find this information for my own knowledge and to satisfy my curiosity. Thank you.
Thank you for honoring the dead even 140 years later. Nothing can be gained by silence and ignorance of the facts.
Thanks for the photographs...my tears are falling. Rest in peace-dear loved ones...