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First_Name:
Jan
Last_Name:
Beattie
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
jankb80@swb.net
Remote Name:
adsl-66-142-196-33.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net
Date:
Monday, December 30, 2002
Time:
10:30 PM

Comments

Being a direct descendant of William and Solomon Wood who were killed along with their brother-in-law,Charles Stallcup, this has always been of great interest to my family. Currently my twelve-year-old son is making the "Mountain Meadows Massacre: Rights and Responsibilities" the subject of his national history day project this year. Your website is invaluable. Additionally, my mother, Freddie (Wood) Cash enjoyed the annual meeting. We are all looking forward to a trip to Utah to visit the monument site.


First_Name:
Lucy
Last_Name:
Mothershead
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
lucym@ozarkmountains.com
Remote Name:
12-28-24-160.southshore.com
Date:
Thursday, December 26, 2002
Time:
05:23 PM

Comments

We moved to the Ozarks in 1995. While looking around the court house in Harrison I noted the Mountain Meadows Massacre monument and began searching for information about this event. I read Judith Brooks book as well as other materials. Just began reading Will Bagley's book Blood of the Prohets and have been looking at the info on the internet this afternoon. The photos by Terry Fancher and his material made it easier to conjure up the terrible event in my minds eye. I lost the connection to the site that the Fancher family set up. While reading the Bagley book about the mindset of the religious folk who committed this atrocity I think about the atrocities our government is whipping our nation into committing against another set of folk, themselves caught up in religious hatreds. It seems that we humans never learn but just keep committing terrible deeds and justifying it all in the name of religion. It seems that we conviently overlook the part that greed, self righteousness and propaganda play in the hate and killing.


First_Name:
carolyn
Last_Name:
hafley
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
dunlop
E_Mail:
logdog127@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-dc02.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Sunday, December 22, 2002
Time:
08:23 AM

Comments


First_Name:
WILLIAM
Last_Name:
PARRIS
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
4801 So. 96 St.
Remote Name:
cdm-208-206-145-fayt.cox-internet.com
Date:
Thursday, December 19, 2002
Time:
01:10 PM

Comments

I had never heard of this horrible incident and just happened to run on to it while searching Genealogy information. The news media should develope at least a one hour story and let people know what happened in our own country. Sixty Minutes would be a good one to develope and present to the world. Wonder just how much the Mormons had to do with this tragidy. Would be interesting to know who all was really involved and what was their motive in killing all of these pioneer, Hard working people. I'm sure the answer is out there somewhere. Maybe if this was publisized more and get more people interested in trying to fine the reason for this terrible slaughter. Bill Parris


First_Name:
Robb
Last_Name:
Kunz
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
slkgt@cc.usu.edu
Remote Name:
12-255-11-59.client.attbi.com
Date:
Tuesday, December 03, 2002
Time:
01:28 AM

Comments

I am writing my thesis paper for my masters degree on the concepts of Manifest destiny and the Mountain Meadow Massacre. I was raised Mormon and have since parted with the church. Ironically I never heard about the incident until I left the church. Such a sad thing and to think that the villians still haven't taken blame. It's too bad. Thanks for the website, it was very helpful.


First_Name:
Natalie
Last_Name:
Cox
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
JDL
E_Mail:
cox99001@byui.edu
Remote Name:
157.201.136.100
Date:
Monday, December 02, 2002
Time:
07:09 PM

Comments

My grandfather introduced this webpage to me as I was doing a research paper on the Healing done now from the wounds of Mountain Meadows. I'm greatly impressed with all of the time and energy that has gone into this association and feel that it's ultimate purpose may never be met, but has helped tremendously in helping console the past.


First_Name:
Linda
Last_Name:
Bell
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
lindabee@bellsouth.net
Remote Name:
host-208-60-240-104.bna.bellsouth.net
Date:
Sunday, December 01, 2002
Time:
10:38 PM

Comments

I am amazed that this sweet site that was formed for the purpose of healing,is being used by so many HATE filled people,who are so blinded by their HATE,that they fail to see that HATE itself has always been the ENEMY that can work within ANYONE that is HUMAN,and if we do not EACH OF US,deal with these feelings,to replace them with CHRIST-LIKE FORGIVENESS,ANYONE can become a murderer.I pray that none of these people will learn the truth about themselves when it has grown to late.


First_Name:
Gloria
Last_Name:
Lairamore
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Bakers
E_Mail:
RLairamore@clds.net
Remote Name:
66-79-34-124.dialup.coastalnow.net
Date:
Tuesday, November 26, 2002
Time:
12:30 AM

Comments

Great, I get your News letter already. But your web. page is great. I'm kin to William Twitty Baker. My husband is the one kin to the Larrmore, would love to know more about them. He spells his last name Lairamore. He has a lot of info. on his family.Thank you again for a great Web. Page.Gloria


First_Name:
Pamela
Last_Name:
Voirol
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Beller
E_Mail:
voirol7876@msn.com
Remote Name:
0-2pool226-63.nas3.cheyenne1.wy.us.da.qwest.net
Date:
Monday, November 25, 2002
Time:
02:44 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Walter
Last_Name:
Davis
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
wakdav@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-mtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Sunday, November 24, 2002
Time:
03:37 PM

Comments

My great grandparents, Daniel & Melissa Hinderliter, started out with this wagon train but Melissa became ill so they dropped out and left the group while still in Kansas. We are delighted to see this bit of history remembered and made available for the future.


First_Name:
Harold
Last_Name:
Gronsdahl
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
hgronsda@sk.sympatico.ca
Remote Name:
hsdb-regn-144-25.sasknet.sk.ca
Date:
Sunday, November 10, 2002
Time:
07:33 PM

Comments

It was one of those tragedies during the US growth which ought never to have happened. I learned of it from my daughter who has a friend descended from the victim families.


First_Name:
Victoria
Last_Name:
Davis
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
LewisTackitt
E_Mail:
space@cei.net
Remote Name:
204.180.112.114
Date:
Friday, November 08, 2002
Time:
10:50 PM

Comments

Lewis Tackitt was my GGGG Grandfather. Lewis>Elizabeth>William P. Davis>Joseph L. Davis>Lonnie H.Davis> I recently began my search for my ancestors. I could not believe my ancestors were killed in the MMM. Thank you for site and helping all of us to understand the history.


First_Name:
ally
Last_Name:
bash
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
slkcdslgw16poolc45.slkc.uswest.net
Date:
Wednesday, November 06, 2002
Time:
07:45 PM

Comments

whoever said that Mormons should pay for this (Kenneth) you're an ignorant fool!

Becuase certain people in the Mormon church do something wrong, doesn't mean all Mormons do!

Get a clue!


First_Name:
Jeanette
Last_Name:
Twitty
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
JBooth2343@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-ntc-ad11.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Tuesday, November 05, 2002
Time:
04:08 PM

Comments

Thank you so much for this beautiful memorial! How very sad it all was. Thank you again.


First_Name:
William
Last_Name:
Haines
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Campbell
E_Mail:
BHaines650@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-dc02.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, October 30, 2002
Time:
03:44 PM

Comments

My family was one of the only two wagons that left the wagontrain in Utah and therefore escaped the massacre. These two wagons went on alone to California using the "Nothern Route". Peter Henry Campbell and family were related to the wagon master. Do you have the letter written by my Great Aunt, Nancy Ann Campbell Lowell as to the events remembered by her?


First_Name:
David
Last_Name:
Baker
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
sonnybaker@cableaz.com
Remote Name:
ip-66-218-232-85.cableaz.com
Date:
Wednesday, October 30, 2002
Time:
02:36 AM

Comments

I went to Mountain Meadows for the first time in May of 2002. I was mesmerized by the beauty and peace of that place, and astounded at the violence that must have occurred. I did not know about the Baker part of the "Fancher Party," and I nearly fell over when I saw the name, John T. Baker, as one of the leaders. My father's name, and grandfather's is John T. (for Thomas) Baker. They were from East Texas, and we have some Arky connections, so I don't know if there are any family connections. I could go to the Mesa temple where there is a geneological research center and find out, I suppose. The Rand McNally Road Atlas I use had the place marked, but the first sign on the roadside is only a mile from the place, and it is a very small sign. I believe it only says, "Massacre Sight, 1 mile." There is another sign where you turn off the road, and it gives little information. It seems that the spot where 120 Americans were murdered by 19th century terrorists would be deserving of more notice. I was utterly alone at that place. The day was beautiful, but icy. It was so quiet, but there were times I was sure I could hear gunfire and weeping. I don't want to hear about how the emmigrants agitated the citizens. Look at the ages of the dead. Too many children died, and that puts the lie to any excuses. May the dead rest in peace, and those of us who remain never forget. And I pray that those who distort, cover-up, or lie about what happened will be more compassionate than their forebearers were when they murdered women and innocent children.


First_Name:
Kenneth
Last_Name:
Hart
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
kenhart@dc4pc.net
Remote Name:
216.64.169.60
Date:
Sunday, October 27, 2002
Time:
11:12 PM

Comments

The mormons should have to pay for this. Just like Osama Bin Laden should.


First_Name:
Shirleen
Last_Name:
Reese
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Prewit
E_Mail:
sr2364@dallasisd.org
Remote Name:
0-1pool22-217.nas29.dallas1.tx.us.da.qwest.net
Date:
Saturday, October 26, 2002
Time:
01:53 PM

Comments

Great site! I'm related to the two young Prewit men killed in the massacre: John, age 20 and William, age 18. I already have a trip planned to Zion National Park this summer, so I will be sure to make a detour to see the monument. Thanks for keeping us informed.


First_Name:
Lee
Last_Name:
Humes
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
leehumes@pacbell.net
Remote Name:
67.114.36.34
Date:
Friday, October 25, 2002
Time:
10:00 PM

Comments

Cover-ups and scapegoating are not new activities, but the guilt will burn until the Mormons admit it to their God, to themselves and to the rest of us. And to the Paiutes, who are now the most deserving.


First_Name:
John
Last_Name:
Botts
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
SCarolinaJohn@msn.com
Remote Name:
67.40.118.40
Date:
Friday, October 25, 2002
Time:
03:45 PM

Comments

The Mountain Meadows Massacre was a terrible event. Even tho it happened 150 years ago the responsible church leaders should not continue to hide from responsibility. May GOD bless us all with HIS forgiveness.


First_Name:
Paul
Last_Name:
Cox
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
paulandjolene@i-plus.net
Remote Name:
rev-63-237-93-17.i-plus.net
Date:
Tuesday, October 22, 2002
Time:
09:02 PM

Comments

Keep the memory of those who died alive. The Mormons will never take responsibility for the tragedy when they double talk around the differences in their scriptures. Furthermore, most Mormons have never heard about Mountain Meadows.

Paul Cox


First_Name:
Robert
Last_Name:
Hill
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wilson
E_Mail:
4bobhill@cox.net
Remote Name:
ip68-4-127-238.oc.oc.cox.net
Date:
Sunday, October 20, 2002
Time:
12:01 PM

Comments

Found your site while searching for geneology on Robert Wilson, and his wife Telitha Cuma Wharton. Interesting to see their names shown, but there is something odd in the fact that they had a son Joshua P. Wilson born after the massacre on Dec. 20, 1859 - two years later. Could they have left the train prior to the massacre? Robert Wilson was born 1818 in So. Carolina, His wife Telitha Cuma Wharton was born in Tenn. 1827. Anyone know what happened there?


First_Name:
Desertphile
Last_Name:
Me
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
dialup-63.209.87.171.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net
Date:
Saturday, October 12, 2002
Time:
09:38 PM

Comments

Two days ago I visited the Monument, and I was angered at what I *DIDN'T* see: no mention of the perpetrators of the crime. It is an abomination that the LDS church were allowed to errect the monument instead of some other organization--- the LDS church therefore has the power to prevent the fact of its role in the slaughter from being placed on the monument. I would like to see the current monument replaced and the LDS organization denied the ability to "rewrite" history.


First_Name:
Dot
Last_Name:
Newton
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
cache-mtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Saturday, October 12, 2002
Time:
05:52 PM

Comments

I had never heard of this massacre until today, October 12, 2002. I find it very interesting and very very sad. God bless those who can forgive.


First_Name:
Robert
Last_Name:
Thornton
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
thorntor@mindspring.com
Remote Name:
user-33qt59d.dialup.mindspring.com
Date:
Friday, October 11, 2002
Time:
10:02 PM

Comments

Twenty-five years ago the grandson of Etta (Juanita) Brooks told me the story of the Mountain Meadows Massace and of his grandmother's role in telling the story. Ten years later I had the opportunity to read her book and became fascinated with the complexity of the story and the dilema it presented to the Church of Latter Day Saints, the Federal Government, and to the citizens of southern Utah.


First_Name:
Clayton
Last_Name:
Wray
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
cwray2@juno.com
Remote Name:
66-42-39-101.sttl.dial.netzero.com
Date:
Friday, October 11, 2002
Time:
12:02 AM

Comments

I just finished Wil Bagley's new book on the massacre. I consider it very well done. He is a member of the LDS Church and some leadership is not happy with his conculsions. The LDS Church is coming out with the "offical" Mormon version next years. It will be interesting to compare. clay


First_Name:
LouNell
Last_Name:
Bath
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
12.106.198.97
Date:
Monday, October 07, 2002
Time:
06:21 PM

Comments

This is my first knowledge of such a horrific event. Just one more reason I'm adamantly opposed to radically religious groups, here or abroad! People use God for so much violence. So sad.


First_Name:
Kenneth
Last_Name:
Varley
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
kenlovar@juno.com
Remote Name:
63-93-71-216.lsan.dial.netzero.com
Date:
Sunday, October 06, 2002
Time:
11:47 AM

Comments

I am an historian and historical reenactor. I am also a theologian and retired military chaplain. In doing research for a graduate degree in theology, and again more recently, researching the military history of this area (Kern Co.California), I had read various accounts of the Mtn Mdw "massacre". A recently article in the local news paper gave your web site. I am interested in the part played by the soldiers from Fort Tejon, Kern County California. And so I have visited this web site. Ken Varley, MA, ThD


First_Name:
Donna
Last_Name:
Ayers
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
donnaayers@juno.com
Remote Name:
66-42-63-55.lsan.dial.netzero.com
Date:
Saturday, September 28, 2002
Time:
05:03 PM

Comments

I have never visted the site, but have read an account of the massacre. I would like to visit Mountain Meadow someday.


First_Name:
John
Last_Name:
Fiedler
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
cvtemptor@aol.com
Remote Name:
outweb.co.san-diego.ca.us
Date:
Monday, September 23, 2002
Time:
07:06 PM

Comments

An interesting and well laid out web site about a tragic incident in history.


First_Name:
Richard
Last_Name:
Smith
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
crtntx1-ar1-4-47-056-197.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net
Date:
Monday, September 23, 2002
Time:
03:20 AM

Comments

Why do the artifacts from the gravesite belong to the LDS and not the State (people) of Utah?


First_Name:
nancy
Last_Name:
parker
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
L
E_Mail:
ednancy@icehouse.net
Remote Name:
spk1-198.argia.net
Date:
Saturday, September 21, 2002
Time:
11:47 AM

Comments

My husband's great grandfather, Mr. Davies, was a Morrisite Mormon, fooolowing Mr. William (?) Morris and there wea sa slaughter. The survivors fled, some relocating in the Walla Walla area of Washington territory. I don't know if this is the same battle or not. Have you any information or do you know about this one? I have access to some documentation in some history books at Whitman College at Walla Walla, WA. I could not send this unless I used a family name but this is the family name I know. I don't know the other families that got away.


First_Name:
Maxine
Last_Name:
Meeks
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Tackett
E_Mail:
melmac@airstotle.net
Remote Name:
vp1ppp155.aristotle.net
Date:
Thursday, September 19, 2002
Time:
01:56 PM

Comments

Very much interested in the Asso. My Family of Tackett lived in VanBuren Co AR 1870 They are from David T Tackett Line out Wayne Co Tn They are related to Lewis Tackett


First_Name:
Joan
Last_Name:
Snow
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
KLINGINGSMITH
E_Mail:
joan@torrymetals.com
Remote Name:
cache-mtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Saturday, September 14, 2002
Time:
06:45 PM

Comments

My cousin, Anna Jean Backus wrote the book "Mountain Meadow Witness". She believes that Priscilla Kling- ingsmith - Urie is a survivor of the massacre. I read Anna Jean's book, Will Bagley's and am at this time reading Juanita Brooks' book. Remembering the comments that I overheard as a child, I tend to agree with Anna Jean. Your site is very informative. Thank you! I will join your organization in the near future. I am bogged down with business responsibilities right now. Joan


First_Name:
Nancy
Last_Name:
Malejko
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Miller
E_Mail:
nmalejko@earthlink.net
Remote Name:
1cust127.tnt36.hou3.da.uu.net
Date:
Saturday, September 14, 2002
Time:
03:34 AM

Comments

Our historical legend says that my paternal great grandfather (William Tillman Miller, b. 1856/1857?) was an infant on the MMM wagon train. His oldest son was named Joseph Miller and my grandfather was named Thomas Tillman Miller. I know that records show Joseph as being the infant who survived and William as the older child who was killed (or not). I would appreciate any information to prove or disprove my heritage/link to the Millers on this train. Our geneology ends here at this point. Thanks.


First_Name:
Joanie
Last_Name:
Long
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
Joanie86@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-dc02.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Friday, September 13, 2002
Time:
05:04 PM

Comments

I have been researching my family for about 2 1/2 years now, and just today I discovered from another researcher that I had relatives in the Mountain Meadow Massacre. I did not even know much about it, but have read all through this wonderful site here and learned a great deal. It saddens me to know that this happened to 17 members of my family, but I am still glad I discovered that it did, so I can share this story with my descendants, and those who died such a horrible death won't be forgotten.

My 3rd great grandmother was Prudence Elizabeth (Wharton) Warren. My relation to this is through her. Prudence's father had been married once before he married Prudence's mother, so Prudence had some older half-siblings. Her two half-siblings, Mary (Wharton) Dunlap & Nancy (Wharton) Dunlap (who married two Dunlap brothers) were killed in the massacre. Not only did my 3rd great grandma lose her two sisters in the massacre, but she also lost 13 of her nieces and nephews, who were the combined children of these two sisters. I just can't even begin to imagine the despair that families went through.

To clarify further, 2 of the people killed (the two Dunlap wives) were my half 3rd great grandaunts. And, all of their children were my half 1st cousins 4 times removed.

I have a picture of Prudence (the sister of the two Dunlap women who died). It's not the same as having a picture of the women themselves, but if anyone is interested in the picture of Prudence, I'd be glad to share.

Joanie (Bean) Long of Oklahoma. (formerly of Arkansas)


First_Name:
Ruth
Last_Name:
Stoddard
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Hamblin
E_Mail:
rstoddard@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
union-cap-135.union-tel.com
Date:
Thursday, September 12, 2002
Time:
06:10 PM

Comments

My family is looking for any information on whether any other Hamblin's (besidesJacobs) were involved in any way or any Stoddards.We will be glad to help in any way we can. I will discuss this with my family and will be helping with donations. Thank you.


First_Name:
Christopher
Last_Name:
Langrock
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
cjlangrock@juno.com
Remote Name:
159.247.3.210
Date:
Thursday, September 12, 2002
Time:
04:29 PM

Comments

I Live in Connecticut and am a Mormon trail/history buff and recently visited the meadows site in aug 2002. I researched the history before I went but nothing can prepare you for the stillness and importance of this sacred site. Your organization has provded a valuble service to the memory of the victims and and the preservation of this special place. Thank You!


First_Name:
Stefano
Last_Name:
Manferlotti
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
manferl@unina.it
Remote Name:
dialin121.unina.it
Date:
Wednesday, September 11, 2002
Time:
04:16 PM

Comments

Dear Sirs, I am full professor of English and American Literature at Naples University, Italy. At presente I am translatig Jack London's THE STAR ROVER into Italian. In chapter 13 there I met with a moving account of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. So I started doing some research to know more about such a terrible and useless butchery. Thank you for what you do.SIncerely Yours, Stefano Manferlotti, University of Naples, Italy


First_Name:
Judy
Last_Name:
Farris
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wharton
E_Mail:
Farrisland@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-dp07.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, September 11, 2002
Time:
12:25 PM

Comments

Family and Friends, Today we are remembering with great sorrow the terrorist attack on America. On this day, Sept 11th, we as a family, are also remembering our ancestors that died at Mountain Meadows.Pray for peace and love all over the world. May God continue to Bless each of us and GOD BLESS THE USA.


First_Name:
Bruce
Last_Name:
Furr
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Lee
E_Mail:
jfurr@cox.net
Remote Name:
ip68-100-130-5.nv.nv.cox.net
Date:
Tuesday, September 10, 2002
Time:
10:09 PM

Comments

Just finished reading Bagleys Book and saw reference to your orgazination.


First_Name:
Henry
Last_Name:
Rose
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
hankrose2@worldnet.att.net
Remote Name:
23.cambridge-16rh16rt.ma.dial-access.att.net
Date:
Monday, September 09, 2002
Time:
03:06 PM

Comments

I am preparing a report on the massacre for the International Assoc of Torch Clubs. I plan to tell about the extraordinary Association you have created, as part of the story. It is certainly a positive response to a sadly negative event. MAYBE MANKIND REALLY IS IMPROVING !!


First_Name:
sandra
Last_Name:
bailey
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
fancher
E_Mail:
sbailey@wholenet.net
Remote Name:
c-modem21.wholenet.net
Date:
Saturday, September 07, 2002
Time:
03:21 PM

Comments


First_Name:
joel
Last_Name:
verner
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
wood
E_Mail:
DrJoelVerner@att.com
Remote Name:
12.72.228.33
Date:
Saturday, September 07, 2002
Time:
02:38 PM

Comments

Thank you so much for this excellent site!

For me, doing a genealogy of my family, the site is extremely informative!


First_Name:
Jacob
Last_Name:
Starkey
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
jake_starkey@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
ncgd-pri8-a105.txucom.net
Date:
Friday, September 06, 2002
Time:
12:42 PM

Comments

The memorials and the Will Bagley book are excellent testimonials to the victims' memories.


First_Name:
Verna
Last_Name:
Doshier
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
lynniebug_xoxo@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
proxy.or4.marketscore.com
Date:
Friday, September 06, 2002
Time:
01:11 AM

Comments

To my Great-Uncles, William and Solomon Wood, you are always in our thoughts. Someday we will be together again. Love Your Great-Niece Verna Irene Doshier

(b. 1912, Marion Co., Ark., Daughter of Silas Price Dozier and Sarah Alabama "Bama" (Henderson) Doshier, Great-Granddaughter of Elihu and Sarah A. Wood)


First_Name:
Freddie
Last_Name:
Cash
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
fgc1040@alltel.net
Remote Name:
h58.25.102.166.ip.alltel.net
Date:
Friday, September 06, 2002
Time:
12:33 AM

Comments

My Great Grandfather's two brothers, Solomon and William Wood was were killed in the massacre and I was just wondering if I am close enough kin to be a member of this organization?

Freddie wood Cash


First_Name:
Earl
Last_Name:
Fetterhoff
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
efetterhoff@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
lsanca1-ar23-4-63-062-215.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net
Date:
Sunday, September 01, 2002
Time:
08:53 PM

Comments

Though I have been aware of this massacre for years I only recently learned that 4 of the emigrants were kin to me. I was made aware of it while discussing family genealogy with my 95 year old Grandmother who was told so by her mother, she was not even certain of their first names but through this site I was able to track them down and tell her.


First_Name:
david
Last_Name:
priest
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
pimlicoboy@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-loh-td024.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Monday, August 26, 2002
Time:
08:46 AM

Comments

I pray for those who died at the hands of the Mormon killers. We live in times when we mourne those who died by the hands of Moslem fanatics on 11th sept 2001. But Christians also mourne those killed by Mormon fanatics on the 11th Sept 1857. We pray in Jesus' name, that we will be delivered from both fanatical religions.


First_Name:
jimmy
Last_Name:
bickel
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
sbickel@cswnet.com
Remote Name:
ppp046.berr.centurytel.net
Date:
Tuesday, August 20, 2002
Time:
03:02 PM

Comments

I have always been interested in this tradgedy. I have many friends over here in Carroll County whose folks were in this wagon train.


First_Name:
Rick
Last_Name:
Richards
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
BENTHEIMMORTAL@webtv.net
Remote Name:
netcache-2004.public.lawson.webtv.net
Date:
Monday, August 19, 2002
Time:
08:31 PM

Comments

It is great that you created this site. I am outraged that after the victims remains were discovered the Utah authorities did not conduct a full Bosnia-style evaluation of the massacre site using the latest physical anthropology and scientific techniques as they would for any other war crime site. I will always hold the Utah authorities and Mormon cult in great contempt for their continued cover-up 145 years after Brigham Young's fanatical followers killed my ancestors in cold blood. I have always been keenly interested in the Mountain Meadows Massacre yet I never heard about this reinternment until I read the October 2001 American Heritage Magazine. The secrecy and shame by the current Utah and Mormon authorities confirms their ancestors guilt.


First_Name:
E
Last_Name:
Schroeder
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
edndeb90@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
ip68-3-120-196.ph.ph.cox.net
Date:
Monday, August 19, 2002
Time:
12:44 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Dorothy
Last_Name:
Stephens
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
rustybucket26@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
h162-039-135-126.ip.alltel.net
Date:
Sunday, August 18, 2002
Time:
02:27 PM

Comments

I enjoyed your web site. Every human will stand before their God and be judged, the Mormans, priests and etc.Thats one day noone can escape.


First_Name:
Michael
Last_Name:
Dougan
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
mdougan@mail.astate.edu
Remote Name:
66.100.115.23
Date:
Saturday, August 17, 2002
Time:
10:45 PM

Comments

This event is mentioned in Dougan's Arkansas Odyssey: The Saga of Arkansas from Prehistoric Times to Present (1994) both because it was a national event with an Arkansas connection and because it started a strong anti-Mormon sentiment that long endured. Persons are invited to review the text (prior to a new edition) and make comments or suggestions.


First_Name:
Lori
Last_Name:
Kreighbaum
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
lorilyd1@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-tq083.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Saturday, August 17, 2002
Time:
12:48 PM

Comments

This is an "update" comment re: my e-mail address...my computer wasdown for a while an of course..the first place I had to go is this site...To Donald Ray...thank-you for the message abut my e-mail...I think it's straight now...would love to hear from any decendents of the Baker family.I am the GGGrand-daughter of William Twitty Baker who was a baby on the wagon train.My great-grand mother was Josephine(Josie) Baker-Taylor..my Grand-mother is Ruby(Taylor)Haton..she is alive and well at 81 yrs.young......The site is Great!...you all are doing a great job!...Lori


First_Name:
Gayle
Last_Name:
Haight
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Haight
E_Mail:
cpandgbhaight@msn.com
Remote Name:
dialup-64.157.191.145.dial1.washington1.level3.net
Date:
Thursday, August 15, 2002
Time:
04:52 PM

Comments

Thank you for the page, and for the research you have done.

I am married to Chauncy (I do not know why his name is spelled differently than his grandfather and great grandfather) Price Haight. We have four sons and a daughter. Our oldest son directed us to this site. We are from Cedar City, Utah, now living in the Washington, D.C. area. GBH


First_Name:
christy
Last_Name:
tackett
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
tackett
E_Mail:
cstardust@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, August 14, 2002
Time:
04:17 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Margo
Last_Name:
Stapleton
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
gramargo@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-te073.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, August 14, 2002
Time:
12:18 AM

Comments

I had Mormon ancestors who arrived in Utah in 1847, and others in 1849, but the ones I'm descended from left the church later. I had visited the massacre site several years ago, and found it most moving, and a little eerie, as if the souls were still nearby. Later I read a book about this event, and found that my great-great-grandfather, Asahel Bennett, (not of the Mormon family) had passed through the area in 1859 while trading in Utah, and had seen remains still around the site. Again, a little eerie.


First_Name:
LEE
Last_Name:
LITTLE
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
gleelittle@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-ntc-tb073.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Sunday, August 11, 2002
Time:
12:57 PM

Comments

I was given a book that is the mtn Meadows Massacre it is so old i can not open it ,it mite fall apart its one of the first ones that was prainted i just thought you mite like to know there is one still around. thanks for putting this togather


First_Name:
Helen
Last_Name:
Grant
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
turqnut@pacbell.net
Remote Name:
ppp-206-170-217-120.nhwd02.pacbell.net
Date:
Sunday, August 11, 2002
Time:
02:06 AM

Comments

I am convinced that it is not Heavenly Father's desire that we find out, for once and for all time, who is at fault; rather, I believe it is His wish that both sides of this issue truly forgive one another and lay all bitterness to rest. I hope this monument will accomplish that purpose.


First_Name:
John
Last_Name:
Daniel
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
excelerator1.byuh.edu
Date:
Saturday, August 10, 2002
Time:
04:45 PM

Comments

It is very sad. So many people were killed by the killers who declared they are living prophets. Chlidren women were killed. There is no diference between Islamuc funtamentalism and this church. They still hide truth from the people. The church colleges always track and check thier students. They are afraid of truth. If the church are trying to change everythiing even Bible. When they are kiling innonecent people they were Mormon.

It must be banned.


First_Name:
David
Last_Name:
Johnson
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
heyduke@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
adsl-63-201-238-178.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Date:
Friday, August 09, 2002
Time:
08:44 PM

Comments

Thanks for putting this site together.


First_Name:
Gayle
Last_Name:
Linch
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Lafoon
E_Mail:
glal57@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-ntc-ta023.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Thursday, August 08, 2002
Time:
09:19 AM

Comments

Not much is known about the Lafoon family, and I can't find anyone in my family who knows about relatives coming through Utah at this time. Lafoon is not a popular name so it is believed that we are somehow related. Any information would be of great value to me.


First_Name:
Don
Last_Name:
Gremaux
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Cameron
E_Mail:
dmgremaux@cs.com
Remote Name:
cache-dc02.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Sunday, August 04, 2002
Time:
01:55 PM

Comments

I like your web site. This is the first time I have looked at it.

I was reviewing the genealogy and found an error. We are asked to send corrections to the web master, but I couldn't find who that is. Perhaps you could forward this message to the web master.

The geneology lists me as being the son of Lorin T. Gremaux, Jr. This is incorrect. He is my brother. My father is Lorin T. Gremaux, Sr. I would appreciate it if this could be corrected.

Thank you, Donald E. Gremaux


First_Name:
Renee
Last_Name:
Rich
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
robrenrich@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-mtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Saturday, August 03, 2002
Time:
09:38 PM

Comments

I am beginning to learn about my family history. My great grandfather's name was Charles Fancher and I know he moved from Kentucky to Butler, Oklahoma in the early 1900's.


First_Name:
DonnaLynn
Last_Name:
Dunlap
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
Donlynli@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-mtc-ab01.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Monday, July 29, 2002
Time:
09:14 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Jennifer
Last_Name:
Dubal
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
rjdubal@attbi.com
Remote Name:
12-225-49-201.client.attbi.com
Date:
Sunday, July 28, 2002
Time:
11:09 PM

Comments

I'm interested in finding information on my family's survivors. If anyone can help me with this I'd appreciate it. There is already a post on by Jeff Trimm that I'm interested in. I'd like to know more on the accounts of this William Miller who supposably didn't die at the massacre. Please email me direct at rjdubal@attbi.com

My family members are the Millers and the Pleasant and Armilda Miller Pleasant family.


First_Name:
james
Last_Name:
anibal
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
azokie@earthlink.net
Remote Name:
1cust130.tnt6.tucson.az.da.uu.net
Date:
Sunday, July 28, 2002
Time:
08:15 PM

Comments

My wife and I visited the Mountain Meadows massacre site a few days ago and I noticed there was no mention of who murdered the emigrants, just that it had had taken place.


First_Name:
guy
Last_Name:
mugu
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
guymugu419@aol.com
Remote Name:
66-178-46-194.newskies.net
Date:
Saturday, July 27, 2002
Time:
06:55 AM

Comments

highly informative site keep it up GUYS I AM HERE


First_Name:
Claudette
Last_Name:
Morgan
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
nana-morgan@msn.com
Remote Name:
dialup-67.24.3.173.dial1.lasvegas1.level3.net
Date:
Friday, July 26, 2002
Time:
02:28 AM

Comments

I'm a tour bus driver from Las Vegas and on many occasions have had the oppertunity to travel through so. Utah and have heard bits and pieces of the story of MOUNTAIN MEADOWS and have so wanted to learn the true story of what happened there and really haven't been able to find much. It's such a hush hush subject. Thank you for putting together such a lovely site. And if you have anymore information that you would like to share I would really enjoy reading it. For when I'm on tour I really only like to relate true facts. Thank you again for your most interesting and truthfull site. And I know that each and everyone of your relatives would be very proud of it.

Thank you again Mrs. Claudette Morgan

PS Any information you could share with me would greatly be appreciated and that way and I share it with the guest on my tours. I can be reached in care Coach USA 4020 E. Lone Mountain Rd. North Las Vegas Nevada 89031 Attention: Claudette Morgan Driver


First_Name:
Mavis
Last_Name:
Hunt
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
maizie@color-country.net
Remote Name:
qwest-png-ip154.scinternet.net
Date:
Thursday, July 25, 2002
Time:
06:17 PM

Comments

I enjoy visiting this site often. I feel blessed to have been able to attend the ward project to take the old monument down, the dedication of the new monument and the reinternment. My mother's family lived in the Central, Utah area when John D. Lee was executed so it was often talked about when I was growing up.


First_Name:
Gina
Last_Name:
Brown
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
beller
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
216.40.193.218
Date:
Tuesday, July 23, 2002
Time:
07:54 PM

Comments

sorry i wanted to correct the mistake i left before, i am related to Manerva Beller Baker. her mother was Martha Lovina Wilburn


First_Name:
Gina
Last_Name:
Brown
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Beller
E_Mail:
gnabrown@ev1.net
Remote Name:
216.40.193.218
Date:
Tuesday, July 23, 2002
Time:
07:48 PM

Comments

i'm really into geneology and i recently found out that i'm related to the beller's. i found this information online and honestly i was never told about this, This website has to be the most touching that i've seen. Thanks so much. i am related to martha lovina beller, her mother is a wilburn. Thats what led me to her, i am a descendant of one of Martha's Brothers


First_Name:
Clayton
Last_Name:
Wray
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
cwray2@juno.com
Remote Name:
1cust140.tnt1.bellingham.wa.da.uu.net
Date:
Saturday, July 20, 2002
Time:
08:34 PM

Comments

The second murder in Iron County, UT was my g.g. grandmother, Olive Olivia Curtis Coombs, who was murdered by George Wood, in Cedar City in September 1862. The connection to the massacre is that it was reported that the motive was the she was asking questions and writing information in a "black ledger" about men that were involved in the massacre. It was reproted that she was going to give the book to a New York newspaper. There was a cover up in the case of the murder by the LDS Church. For example The book "History of Iron County" had no mention of this murder as Janet Burton Seegmiller, the author, found nothing about it during her research. Through a petition circulated by the Local LDS Stake and signed by over 200 men George Wood was pardoned by Gov. Doty after serving less than 3 years in prison. Anyone iterested in knowing more feel free to contact me. Regards: Clayton Wray Anyone interested in this murder


First_Name:
Marti
Last_Name:
Roe
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
BakerEdwards
E_Mail:
martiroe@pacbell.net
Remote Name:
adsl-63-192-100-235.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net
Date:
Saturday, July 13, 2002
Time:
01:45 AM

Comments


First_Name:
Janette
Last_Name:
Williams
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
nette@centurytel.net
Remote Name:
pppoe-66-112-24-30.rb.spt.centurytel.net
Date:
Tuesday, July 09, 2002
Time:
10:02 PM

Comments

Mark Lafayette Baker was my grandfather,William Edward was his father,Mathew was his father,Isaac was his father and William Baker(1750) was his father.


First_Name:
G
Last_Name:
Koch
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Eagle0025@aol.com
Remote Name:
acc0c8b3.ipt.aol.com
Date:
Tuesday, July 09, 2002
Time:
08:02 PM

Comments

It is nice to see a site dedicated to the victims of a terrible atrocity. Hopefully, more people will become aware of this historical event through your site. I personally became aware of this tragedy and your website from the book "One Nation Under Gods" by Richard Abanes. It is an excellent read for anyone interested in a well-documented history of the Mormon church.


First_Name:
Jeanine
Last_Name:
Stitt
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
heygirl1@earthlink.net
Remote Name:
ilrobi01-34.midwest.net
Date:
Sunday, July 07, 2002
Time:
08:10 PM

Comments

To Whom It May Concern---Hi...I heard from one of my friends that there is a new book out on shelves now or soon to be on shelves concerning the Mountain Meadows Massacre published by the University of Oklahoma Press but I am not sure what it is exactly titled. I would like to own a copy of it and my Sunday School teacher at the church I attend would like to look at my copy once I get it. I don't really know that much about the Massacre but I would like to learn more about it because I am fascinated with history and by culture. You have a nice site!


First_Name:
Rachelle
Last_Name:
Jones
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
chilimex5@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
dup-200-64-194-51.prodigy.net.mx
Date:
Saturday, July 06, 2002
Time:
05:30 PM

Comments

I have visited the site and it is wonderful, I am greateful that we can forgive and move ahead as our ancestors would have us do. I live in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico and am currently doing research, family info. I would love to help if you need. Thanks


First_Name:
Danny
Last_Name:
Hightower
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Rush
E_Mail:
hightower@cniemail.com
Remote Name:
206.176.138.238
Date:
Friday, July 05, 2002
Time:
03:40 PM

Comments

I visited the Mountain Meadows site for the first time in June 2002. This is a very peaceful place. My thanks to those who have given so much time and effort in perserving our ancestors history.


First_Name:
Robert
Last_Name:
Jowett
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Prewett
E_Mail:
rgjowett@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
168.180.40.117
Date:
Wednesday, June 26, 2002
Time:
07:56 PM

Comments

John and William Prewett were 3rd great uncles. My Aunt Lennie Wright Ferguson, who migrated from Arkansas to Washington State and lived to be over a hundred said "Papa didn't like Mormons because they killed two of his uncles." Have family letter asking what happened to them and how much gold they were getting in California. Have traced some of the Prewett/Downs lines. Have picture of David & Eli


First_Name:
jeanie
Last_Name:
terrell
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
mrsjet@ev1.net
Remote Name:
eli-208-187-23-3.ev1.net
Date:
Friday, June 21, 2002
Time:
12:36 PM

Comments

interesting memorial. a just and respectful cause


First_Name:
Brenda
Last_Name:
White
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
loc8kerr@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
61.188.192.188
Date:
Thursday, June 20, 2002
Time:
10:08 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I am a Mormon, and you? I am here want to make more friends, and by the way, I found an very interesting website a few days ago, maybe you can try to visit it! If you enjoy it, please tell your friends!

Link removed by webmaster. We only link to family and Mountain Meadows Massacre informative sites.


First_Name:
J
Last_Name:
Roper
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
JonesShawNealNail
E_Mail:
jroper7@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
cpe-24-221-254-89.ut.sprintbbd.net
Date:
Wednesday, June 19, 2002
Time:
08:24 PM

Comments

I have been working on my family history for 20 years. I learned about this site from the family history library in Salt Lake City. I want to exhaust every possible source in locating members of my family line's. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


First_Name:
Gary
Last_Name:
Fancher
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
jrsyshadow@aol.com
Remote Name:
cache-ntc-ac07.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Monday, June 17, 2002
Time:
03:59 PM

Comments

Thank you for posting this information so new generation's can learn about mistakes of the past.


First_Name:
Cecilia
Last_Name:
FabosBecker
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
becker@sprintmail.com
Remote Name:
dialup-209.245.128.80.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net
Date:
Thursday, June 13, 2002
Time:
12:57 AM

Comments

Considering that Mormons in the last century murdered cousins of my 2nd-great grandmother Nancy Ellen Dunlap (and her oldest grand-daughter was named "Jessie" Collins) (in 1861 Nancy was robbed of everything by Kansans at Osceola), and in this century, several years ago I got Russians out of this country before they stole the rest of Silicon Valley blind courtesy of a Mormon con-man at the Soviet Silicon Summit, and just had to close a business and lost $200,000 in it, and in a consequential lawsuit, etc. just to be left alone, to another Mormon swindler/thief, please excuse me if I have mixed feelings, some not too good about Mormons these days. It rather seems they've done a lot of damage to me and my family that has yet to be adequately repaid. I appreciate the genealogy libraries, and the fact there are a lot of decent and good Mormons around, including businesspersons, but I'd appreciate it if neither I nor the rest of my family ran into any of the thieves for awhile--like at least a century or two.


First_Name:
Frank
Last_Name:
Bailey
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
spider-wm081.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, June 12, 2002
Time:
10:56 PM

Comments

The religious fanaticism that took place then by Mormon extremists is similar to the fanaticism of the Islamic fundamentalists today...


First_Name:
DL
Last_Name:
Rodcay
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
drodcay1166@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
spider-to012.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Thursday, June 06, 2002
Time:
01:19 PM

Comments

I'm sure I will get a lot of unfavorable remarks to what I am going to try to say...but I am speaking how I feel.

I thouroughly regret (for more than just this reason) joining the LDS church many years ago. I had no clue that I had distant ancestors who were part of the Baker/Fancher emmigrants. I didn't know about the Mountain Meadows Massacre until AFTER I left the church.

Someday I hope to visit this place. Thank you for all your work and dedication to the victims of the Massacre and preservation of what remains.


First_Name:
Janice
Last_Name:
Adams
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
caa@pioche.lincoln-nv.com
Remote Name:
pioche1.lincoln-nv.com
Date:
Tuesday, June 04, 2002
Time:
02:26 PM

Comments

I live near the site the massacre and have visited there many times. For those of you who are related on the Klingensmith/Urie line, Anna Jean Backus has written two excellent books. I found a list of participants in one of her books that lists a Behunin and a Tyler involved. No first names were listed for the two men. Does anyone know of a list of participants or who these men were ?? I am interested to know. This web site is fantastic and very much appreciated. Thank You so much for all you are doing.


First_Name:
Rick
Last_Name:
Akin
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
RickAkin@HotMail.Com
Remote Name:
unknown.level3.net
Date:
Tuesday, June 04, 2002
Time:
12:19 PM

Comments

I just discovered that I am related through my grandmother. Her maid name was Ida Coker. She grew up in Arkansas and was cousin to the Wood family.


First_Name:
Martha
Last_Name:
Feld
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
marthafeld@earthlink.net
Remote Name:
sdn-ap-019tnnashp1336.dialsprint.net
Date:
Monday, June 03, 2002
Time:
10:12 PM

Comments

In July, I shall conduct Kids Trek for the Annual Gathering of Mensa in Scottsdale, Arizona. As a part of the program, on July 4, I'll teach about the Old Spanish Trail. If you or any of your colleagues would like to offer suggestions that would enhance the program, please contact me, marthafeld@earthlink.net.


First_Name:
Bob
Last_Name:
Thompson
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
egbobt@aol.com
Remote Name:
168.71.5.202
Date:
Monday, June 03, 2002
Time:
05:16 PM

Comments

I just finished reading a book about the massacre and was hoping to find some additional information. Your site has been very helpful.


First_Name:
Bob
Last_Name:
Th
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
168.71.5.202
Date:
Monday, June 03, 2002
Time:
05:14 PM

Comments


First_Name:
NILA
Last_Name:
ALLEN
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
TACKITT
E_Mail:
nilall@crcom.net
Remote Name:
208.220.74.3
Date:
Sunday, June 02, 2002
Time:
07:09 PM

Comments

I visited the Meadow & Monument a few years ago and it was a very touching and emotional expierence. At the time I was there the monument was still standing and I was not aware that it had fallen. It is actually my husband who is related to the Tackitt family but he was not with me at the time. I do hope all is going well with replacement. I hope some day that my husband will be able to see it Nila Allen


First_Name:
Ken
Last_Name:
Thompson
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
McConnell
E_Mail:
kenb123@color-country.net
Remote Name:
qwest-png2-ip58.scinternet.net
Date:
Saturday, June 01, 2002
Time:
12:50 AM

Comments

I think your site and organization is wonderful and needed to help us remember this unfounded slaughter of husbands, wives and children by religious fanatics. To your credit, you seem to show little or no animosity against the organization that perpertrated this act, eventhough in my opinion their deception continues to this day. Most recently, when a backhoe operator inadvertently dug up several remains, (which by state law must be examined by the state medical examiners office) which were reburied the very next day by order of our governer Micheal O Leavitt, A mormon, originally from Cedar City.


First_Name:
Donald
Last_Name:
Baker
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
drbaker312@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-ntc-ta032.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, May 29, 2002
Time:
12:08 PM

Comments

This message is for Lori Kreighbaum. Your e-mail address does not work. Why don't you try it with someone that you know that lives close to you that can be contacted by phone. Hope to hear from you soon after your e-mail address is corrected. DRB


First_Name:
jason
Last_Name:
dunlap
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
rlcarmicheal40@msn.com
Remote Name:
0-1pool95-93.nas5.greensboro2.nc.us.da.qwest.net
Date:
Saturday, May 25, 2002
Time:
08:28 PM

Comments

I am intereseted in knowing if any of these Dunlap's went to North Carolina, Stokes county. Thank you


First_Name:
Lori
Last_Name:
Kreighbaum
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
lorik12200@yahoo.com
Remote Name:
65.170.127.36
Date:
Wednesday, May 22, 2002
Time:
12:39 AM

Comments

My GG-Grandfather was William Twiddy Baker, G-Grandmother was Josephine(Baker)Taylor,...would love to hear from any decendents..and for the one I have heard from before, now you have my new e-mail..(sorry my computer was down for a while)...and to the ones who keep this site going...GREAT JOB!! I am always so proud to introduce my friends to this site..and they are always amaxed at the info and dedication of all involved...May the memory of our loved ones never be forgotten....Thank-you.


First_Name:
Charlene
Last_Name:
Skillern
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Pruitt
E_Mail:
doncharly@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-tp064.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Tuesday, May 21, 2002
Time:
01:00 AM

Comments

I have recently visited the monument in Utah. I would love to know more about the 2 Pruitt brothers that died. My grand-mother's maiden name was Prutt. She was born in the Indian territory in Oklahoma in 1888. Her name was Ida Mae Pruitt. Her parents were John Edward and Martha [Clayborn] Pruitt.


First_Name:
kimberly
Last_Name:
suero
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
f
E_Mail:
suerogirls@cs.com
Remote Name:
spider-te021.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Thursday, May 16, 2002
Time:
09:03 PM

Comments

i think this is a very good website. you can even find out about the california gold rush. every day there is something new. i hope they keep on adding more!!!


First_Name:
joey
Last_Name:
tarzia
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Remote Name:
204.128.70.7
Date:
Wednesday, May 15, 2002
Time:
09:03 AM

Comments

good


First_Name:
Almeda
Last_Name:
Gerdes
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
ag97119@aol.com
Remote Name:
spider-ti033.proxy.aol.com
Date:
Tuesday, May 07, 2002
Time:
12:38 AM

Comments

John T. Baker was my grandfathers greatuncle. My grandfather was Albert L. Long his Mother was Sarah Couch...daughter to Mary Polly Baker Couch the sister of John.


First_Name:
Charles
Last_Name:
Nuckolls
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
cnuckoll@tenhoor.as.ua.edu
Remote Name:
130.160.214.124
Date:
Friday, May 03, 2002
Time:
11:39 AM

Comments

A great site, and my congratulations! I am interested in Mountain Meadows as a symbol in contemporary Mormonism. How does it figure in current Mormon understandings of the faith? Do people worry about it? If so, why?

Thanks very much,

Charles W. Nuckolls, Ph.D. Professor Department of Anthropology University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, AL 35487


First_Name:
Marilyn
Last_Name:
Duggar
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
meduggar@mtaonline.net
Remote Name:
dialups-136.nenana.mtaonline.net
Date:
Wednesday, May 01, 2002
Time:
02:18 AM

Comments


First_Name:
john
Last_Name:
jacobs
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Jacobs
E_Mail:
johnjs@qwest.net
Remote Name:
adialup79.slkc.uswest.net
Date:
Tuesday, April 30, 2002
Time:
12:58 PM

Comments

MY REALATIVES ARE FROM JOHNSON COUNTY ARKANSAS AROUND THE OZARK AREA. MY FATHER CAME FROM THERE TO UTAH ABOUT 1948. I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE WHEN I WAS A STUDENT AT SOUTHERN UTAH ST. COLLEGE. AT CEDAR CITY. IT MAKES MY HEART VERY SAD THAT THIS HAPPEND.


First_Name:
Mikki
Last_Name:
SageHarper
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Willdens
E_Mail:
garyharper4@attbi.com
Remote Name:
12-254-243-241.client.attbi.com
Date:
Tuesday, April 30, 2002
Time:
01:10 AM

Comments

In reading my grandfather Charles Uel Keeles' memoirs, I found reference to his grandfather Willden as having claimed to have been present at the massacre. He also claimed that Grandfather Willden was responsible for hiding two little girls beneath bodies in order to save them. Supposedly the two girls were able to exonerate him and he was declared free and innocent. At least that is how it reads in my grandfathers story. As to what the truth is,... who really knows. Grandfather Willden was a converted Mormon from England who was sent to Cedar City by Brigham Young, he later built the original fortress across from where Cove fort now stands. He later built a home in Beaver Utah which still stands. I use to drive by the original monument years ago. Every time I did, I couldnt help but wonder why man is so cruel and stupid. Mikki Sage Harper


First_Name:
Harry
Last_Name:
Bieber
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
badrabbit@prodigy.net
Remote Name:
dialup-65.56.78.99.dial1.miami1.level3.net
Date:
Wednesday, April 24, 2002
Time:
06:34 PM

Comments

My ggg grandmother was a "Yarb" doctor. She left Arkansas in May 1857 and came across the massacre.. day, two, I don;t know. One woman was still alive, naked, and scalped. They took her to California with them. Six months later they returned to Arkansas, but she would not go with them, as she was very scared and still a little funny in the head. That's about all I can remember at the mement without searching thru the somewhere files. We still have the cooking pot and biscuit skillet from those trips (she made two round trips). There might be some mutual information. Contact me at Lela O. McQueary Foundation, POB 030458, Ft Lauderdale, FL 33303, or (Jun-Nov) POB 1475, Lyons, CO 80405.


First_Name:
Bill
Last_Name:
Wood
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Wood
E_Mail:
bjwood@ipa.net
Remote Name:
pool-2-172.sea.ipa.net
Date:
Tuesday, April 23, 2002
Time:
10:41 AM

Comments

I read of one account of the massacre that indicated that there were two other Wood's, first names unknown, who were killed. My gg grandfather, Charles L. Wood, disappeared around the time of the massacre. According to family legend, he left to go to California "to the goldrush" after marrying Elvira Meeker in Independence County, AR, in 1852. He fathered two sons, William Asa and Charles Ruben Wood. Does anyone have even unproven evidence to connect Charles L Wood to the wagon train massacre? Bill Wood, bjwood@ipa.net, Searcy, AR


First_Name:
Steve
Last_Name:
Chaney
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
steveandgailchaney@hotmail.com
Remote Name:
199.3.18.13
Date:
Monday, April 22, 2002
Time:
11:54 PM

Comments

My great-great grandfather (James Chism Chaney) was a friend and neighbor of Captain Fancher's in Osage Arkansas.


First_Name:
Kevin
Last_Name:
Williams
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
blmrangecon@salmoncountry.net
Remote Name:
dial-216-163-104-43.salmoncountry.net
Date:
Saturday, April 20, 2002
Time:
10:26 AM

Comments

I just wanted to say that I am grateful for this site. I have an intrest in the affair due to some of my family history. My gg-grandfather, George Calvin Williams lived in Carroll & Boone County Arkansas for a time before coming west to New Mexico and Arizona in the 1870's. He was an itinerant Baptist preacher there. In his autobiography he stated that one of the issues that he wrestled with before joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was the Mountain Meadows Massacre. He states that he had "kinfolk" who were killed in the massacre and that he had a hard time coming to understand the whole affair. He did eventually join the church, but left it later in his life when he saw that one of the "mormon" participants was allowed back into full fellowship into the church while he lived in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico. Some of his children stayed with the church after his death and some did not. My gg-grandfather's reference to "kinfolk" has intrigued me. He could have meant actual blood kin or some of his fellow worshippers or settlers in Arkansas, either way, I'd like to know. He had a brother, Pleasant Samuel Williams, and possibly other family members that were in the same area of Arkansas before and after the Civil War. George Calvin's wife, Martha Bearl Easterly's mother's surname was FARMER Again, I appreciate your web site and wish you luck in the healing process. Some day I'd like to visit the site.


First_Name:
Liz
Last_Name:
Smith
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Haight
E_Mail:
smith.liz@juno.com
Remote Name:
64.211.101.2
Date:
Wednesday, April 17, 2002
Time:
10:21 PM

Comments

Were you aware that all of Issac C. Haight temple blessing were later restored?


First_Name:
Kimball
Last_Name:
Ball
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
kball@co.slc.ut.us
Remote Name:
slcrfw.co.slc.ut.us
Date:
Thursday, April 11, 2002
Time:
03:59 PM

Comments

I am a member of the LDS Church and a life long resident of Utah. I found this site about 3 years ago and have been a regular reader of your newsletter since then. I don't usually sign your guest book, because I want to let new visitors have the space. This time I wanted to leave some comments in response to a couple of people who left what I feel are counter-productive comments earlier this year.

First, Kirby Hickman wrote he doubts many LDS people even know about the MMM. I want him and others to know that I have known about this horrible event since childhood. It has been used as a teaching tool by my parents, teachers and church leaders to show me what intolerance and religious zealotry can do. As a teenager we studied about the massacre in LDS Seminary.

Secondly, I would like to respond to Tonya Smit and let her know I think her comments were counter productive and not at all in harmony with the spirit of this web site or organization. She seems to not be aware that this organization is made up of descendants from both sides of the massacre. The LDS Church has provided many resources to this association to help with the memorial. Also, it is unfair to condemn LDS people today for an isolated incident perpetrated by a few religious zealots whose actions have been condemned by LDS leadership for decades starting with Brigham Young. You say Brigham Young did nothing about the massacre, but the record shows that John D. Lee was excommunicated from the LDS Church as a result of his participation in the massacre. Your comments are and open portal into your soul which is obviously filled with bitterness. The chip on your should you carry as a result of this bitterness will only get bigger the longer you carry it. If the descendants of this awful event in history can find it in their hearts to reconcile and live in peace, why can't the rest of us? You say if you leave Utah, the Mormons win. As if we are engaged in some sort of conflict or contest. This could not be farther from the truth. You compliment this association and their website while advocating the very type of hatred toward other people which brought about this horrible event. I wish you could see that your own attitude is nearly identical to that of John D. Lee and the other perpetrators of this massacre.


First_Name:
Eldon
Last_Name:
Shewmaker
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Lee
E_Mail:
eshewmaker@charter.net
Date:
Sunday, April 07, 2002
Time:
11:00 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Monica
Last_Name:
armijo
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
armijo
E_Mail:
nevmon@prodigy,net
Date:
Wednesday, April 03, 2002
Time:
04:46 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Amanda
Last_Name:
Fancher
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
powergen74@hotmail.com
Date:
Friday, March 29, 2002
Time:
04:17 PM

Comments

I've only heard about the Mountain Meadows Massacre in the past couple of years. I'm looking forward to learning more and possibly doing a little genealogy... Great website!


First_Name:
Molly
Last_Name:
Alfret
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
hunybee@hotmail.com
Date:
Thursday, March 28, 2002
Time:
07:16 PM

Comments

I absolutely enjoyed visiting! We hope to come back soon!


First_Name:
Stephen
Last_Name:
Fancher
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
sdf51_2000@yahoo.com
Date:
Thursday, March 28, 2002
Time:
02:12 AM

Comments

Thank you for a site to gather discuss and remember and learn about our past.


First_Name:
Kathy
Last_Name:
Johnson
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Pomgarden@cvip.net
Date:
Monday, March 18, 2002
Time:
11:07 PM

Comments

I have a photocopy of the Report titled :Report of the Subject of the Massacre at the Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory, in September, 1857, of one Hundred and Twenty Men, women and Children, who were from Arkansas. By Brevet Major james Henry Carleton, US Army and Report of the Hon. William C. Mitchell ..... Little Rock: ???? Democrat Steam Press Print. 1800. I am sure that one of your books on you booklist is the same but I couldn't tell for sure. When I was a study I worked in serials at the U of U library and was searching for LC numbers on a truck of rare books. The original book is in the rare book section at the U of U so I am sure you have it. But just in case you don't, let me know an I can send you a copy unless I'm in trouble for having it.


First_Name:
Lawana
Last_Name:
Johnston
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
ljk3lover81@yahoo.com
Date:
Thursday, March 14, 2002
Time:
07:11 PM

Comments

I am looking into the history of the events surounding the Moutian Meadows event. My great grandmother, Angiline Dunlap was a surviver of the attack and my father was given the Dunlap name at her request. His name was James Dunlap Koen. Angiline married FDL Koen in Arkansas. I can supply some family background on her if you would like to have it.


First_Name:
marsha
Last_Name:
mcfarland
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
unknown
E_Mail:
dgfur@yahoo.com
Date:
Monday, March 11, 2002
Time:
06:40 PM

Comments

Dear editor, My great-great grandfather and his parents were among the Arkansas immigrants. His parents were killed and he was among the infants returned to Arkansas, where he was adopted by a German couple. His name was Still, but it looks as if that is his adopted name, since there are no Stills on the memorial. We don't know the name of his natural parents. When he grew up, he married a Cherokee lady with the surname Wilson. I would appreciate help in researching this, since it seems my family is a lost puzzle piece! Sincerely, dgfur@yahoo.com


First_Name:
DeAnn
Last_Name:
Blevins
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Haight
E_Mail:
cmle66@yahoo.com
Date:
Friday, March 08, 2002
Time:
08:18 PM

Comments

My mother-n-law's maiden name was Haight. Do not know if we are related to Issac Chauncey Haight or not.


First_Name:
Nikki
Last_Name:
Allen
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Date:
Tuesday, March 05, 2002
Time:
11:38 PM

Comments

Until the news story about the lead tablet attributed to John Lee, I had never heard about this before. What a terrible tragedy. I am heartened to see that the two sides are reconciled and are working to remember the victims.


First_Name:
Victoria
Last_Name:
Harris
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
harrisjd@iland.net
Date:
Tuesday, March 05, 2002
Time:
03:49 PM

Comments

I appreciate all the quality work you've done!


First_Name:
Brenda
Last_Name:
Taylor
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
staylor72348@aol.com
Date:
Sunday, March 03, 2002
Time:
05:27 PM

Comments

My wife (Brenda Montgomery Taylor) is the great-granddaughter of Sarah Frances Baker, young survivor of MMM. Sarah Frances married a Gladden, whose daughter Pearl Gladden Barnes was the mother of Betty Lee Barnes Montgomery, mother of my wife. We have been doing some research about MMM and are pleased to find out about the Association. We plan to join in the near future. Steve Taylor


First_Name:
Mrs
Last_Name:
Norton
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Date:
Tuesday, February 26, 2002
Time:
09:47 AM

Comments

The Denver (CO) Rocky Mountain News did a story about this on Monday 25 Feb. 2002; pages 7A - 10A. http://www.RockyMountainNews.com


First_Name:
ashlee
Last_Name:
jones
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
dunlap
E_Mail:
www.sakuraamc@aol.com
Date:
Saturday, February 23, 2002
Time:
10:25 PM

Comments

What i think is you done very well on the its confusing to me in my life i read many,many books in my life.im 12yrs.old and im releated thourgh my grandmoyher,on my dads side.


First_Name:
Billy
Last_Name:
Sanders
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Mitchell
E_Mail:
itybtyblu@att.net
Date:
Saturday, February 23, 2002
Time:
09:56 PM

Comments

You All hve done a beautiful job of keeping these family members alive. May we never forget.


First_Name:
William
Last_Name:
Hargraves
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Fancher
E_Mail:
spt_wolfhybrid@yahoo.com
Date:
Saturday, February 23, 2002
Time:
03:22 PM

Comments

I thank all of the volunteers for their work on restoring my ancestory and would appreciate any help on finding my lost aunts and cousins. I showed this site to my mother who is a Fancher and she cried about it all.


First_Name:
JANE
Last_Name:
LOWREY
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
BAKER
E_Mail:
LilLizaJaneBox38@hotmail.com
Date:
Saturday, February 23, 2002
Time:
12:00 AM

Comments

MY DAD'S NAME WAS BAKER, HENCE MY MAIDEN NAME.


First_Name:
Tracey
Last_Name:
Moore
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
allspeednodrag@aol.com
Date:
Friday, February 22, 2002
Time:
09:18 PM

Comments

This site interesting. I am a decendent of John Twiddy Baker. My Grandmother was a daughter of Pleasant (Pleas) Baker who was a son of John Twiddy Baker. Pleas was not on the wagon train - apparently he stayed back in Arkansas (good thing or I would not be writing this!). I see from the geneolgy tree that he would have been seven when the massacre occured. My Dad used to tell me stories about the "Mormon Massacre" when I was young. He always told us that the Mormans were disguised as indians - a very exciting story. My father passed away in 1996 before we had any idea that whole web sites were devoted to this subject. I'm sure he would have enjoyed your site too.


First_Name:
Dani
Last_Name:
Sudekum
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
countrygirll94@cs.com
Date:
Friday, February 22, 2002
Time:
08:54 PM

Comments

I am researching this for a report in my english class at NMC. If you have any further informaiton please send it my way. Thank you for this web site.


First_Name:
Geri
Last_Name:
Farrell
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
gmfgaf@lvcm.com
Date:
Tuesday, February 19, 2002
Time:
10:32 PM

Comments


First_Name:
dean
Last_Name:
ellis
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
deancellis@juno.com
Date:
Friday, February 15, 2002
Time:
07:25 PM

Comments

Mountain Meadow-Another September 11th

Last night I spent the night in St.George, Utah. I woke up early this morning, before the sun came up, and drove about 30 minutes, to a small meadow in the mountains. When I arrived it was still dark. This meadow has special significance.

What a man takes in by contemplation, that he pours out in love-Meister Eckhart

Nearly 150 years ago, a group of about 200 people left their small town in Arkansas and headed for their dreams in California. On the way they passed through this little meadow in southern Utah and stopped for some rest and relaxation. Some local Mormon leaders became concerned at the arrival of the outsiders. A meeting was called and it was determined that these settlers should be exterminated from the area. With the help of some Indians, they armed themselves and went to the meadow. They found the settlers wagons in a circle. They surrounded them from nearby hilltops and on September 7, 1857 the killing began. After 4 days, over half of settlers had been killed. On September 11th, the remaining survivors agreed to surrender if they were given safe passage to Cedar City. Their Mormon attackers agreed. The settlers gave up their weapons, were lined up under guard, and began their march to Cedar City. They had scarcely left the meadow, (about ½ mile) when their would be escorts turned on them and killed the remaining men, women and children over the age of 2 years old in a brutal and heinous manner. Seventeen children, ages 6 months to 2 years survived the 4 day ordeal and were left orphaned. Nearly all were returned to family or friends in Arkansas. Etched on the granite wall of this modest memorial were the names of those who were killed as well as the 17 surviving children. I couldn’t help but notice the Fancher Family. Only the two youngest children had survived. Their Father, Mother and 7 brothers and sisters had all been killed.

There are no hero’s here, nothing but bones in fall colors-

My purpose in going early in the morning was to have a chance to be alone, before other people arrived, and ponder the events of so many years ago. As I looked down from the observation area on this dark, somewhat dimly lit meadow I could begin to make out the outline of a large rock memorial off in the distance where the remains of the settlers had been laid to rest, a certain “valley of bones.” I searched my Book of Mormon for the words of that great Prophet, historian, writer and military leader, Mormon. After witnessing the self-destruction and annihilation of his people he recorded:

“…Their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the earth and to crumble and to return to their mother earth. And my soul was rent with anguish…O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen! But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.” (Mormon 6:15-20)

And so with Mormon I lamented…The names and places had been changed but the result was all too familiar…

We may never know the full reasons why such a tragedy took place. But suffice it to say, these were Mormon terrorists plain and simple, led by Mormon leaders whose zealous faith had gone awry. So many dreams cut short.

A nearby spider spins his web in peace while humanity spins its world wide web of hate and destruction-

Now thoughts of Heiwa Koen in Hiroshima, USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor, Gettysburg, the War Memorial in Washington DC, the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem flood my mind. I have pondered “man’s inhumanity to man” for hours in such places; and now I add a meadow in the mountains of southern Utah.

Moroni, the last man standing, tried to warn us when he recorded:

“Behold, I speak unto you as though I spake from the dead; for I know ye shall have my words…give thanks unto God that he hath made manifest unto you our imperfections, that ye may learn to be more wise than we have been.” (Mormon 9: 30-31)

It all seems such a waste…then in the distance, shots from some hunters, breaks the silence and reminds me that the killing continues-

It seems we haven’t learned nor have we come very far in 1600 years. Certainly the time, places and names have changed, but perhaps our children will be pondering the same things in such places as; ground zero in New York City, the Pentagon in Washington DC, Belfast, Jerusalem, Eastern Africa and yes, even Kabul and Kandihar.

The stillness of the cool air is broken by a distant jet. In some places, a sound of horror-

September 11, 2001, reminds us all that religious terrorism is alive and well.

October 7, 2001, even as a prophet speaks for peace, the killing commences in the far away land of Afghanistan.

When will it end…Why do they hate us…When will we learn to “love our enemies” because they are ourselves…

Perhaps a partial answer lies right here in the meadow…

The sun begins to rise, first illuminating the peaks of the mountains to the west and gradually descending until in carpeted the entire meadow of sage and cedar with its rays below…Names etched in granite-

I begin to read the history of this place since that terrible day.

Several ranchers had owned the property and tried to preserve the monument, but it had been vandalized by souvenir hunters and was in disrepair. A small group in Arkansas (descendants of the survivors) formed an association and erected a memorial in a park in Arkansas. Not long after (1989), a group in southern Utah (descendants of the perpetrators) joined them, to form the Mountain Meadows Association. This association with help from the Mormon church, acquired the property and now cares for and preserves the meadow. An observation area was erected on a hill overlooking the meadow with the names of those killed etched in granite. A fence was built for protection, around the rock monument where their bones were placed.

This area now serves as a fitting final resting place for those who lost their lives in this tragic event. It also serves as a grave remainder to us all of what happened there, as the voices of the dead speak out, to never let such a thing happen again.

The blue sky…the rising sun…the occasional passing of a cloud…and the quiet still, give hope for a day and a future of peace.

Now I can hear the voices of the living…descendants of those long since gone. The voices of Arkansas, Cedar and Salt Lake City echo words of repentance and forgiveness. If they could forgive each other and create this place together, surely we can try to “just get along” in peace. Such is the purpose of this memorial. A demonstration of people overcoming hate through understanding, reconciliation and love. A meadow of bones in full resurrection.

(My thoughts as I visited Mountain Meadow the first time, on October 11, 2001)


First_Name:
Heather
Last_Name:
Blackburn
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
sweet_thing_4448@yahoo.com
Date:
Tuesday, February 05, 2002
Time:
04:35 PM

Comments


First_Name:
John
Last_Name:
Ward
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
wrd10@gwe.net
Date:
Wednesday, January 30, 2002
Time:
08:22 PM

Comments

I just found out about this heinous crime and although I am amazed, I cannot say I am surprized. I hope that the facts come out and that reparations, at least, are made to the families that lost loved ones to those domestic terrorists.


First_Name:
Shana
Last_Name:
Baker
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
aviprep@aol.com
Date:
Wednesday, January 30, 2002
Time:
12:49 AM

Comments

Hi all, my husband recently posted an entry here. I am the descendant of the Mormon side, and he is a Baker. We recently visited the monument with all five of our children, descendants of both sides. Anyway, a very good friend of mine has a Mtn. Meadows site that I thought may interest some of you, "The Other 9-11 Atrocity". The url is http://www.mazeministry.com/mormonism/mmmassacre/mmm.htm. It is a non-LDS site, so be forewarned if you are Mormon (I am an ex-member of the church myself). We do live in Utah, a few hours from the monument, and wouldn't mind assisting anyone with directions, etc. who is making a trip out here to visit the monument. Keep up the good work!


First_Name:
John
Last_Name:
Griffiths
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
jkgrif@attbi.com
Date:
Monday, January 28, 2002
Time:
09:25 PM

Comments

Thank you for your time and effort in adding a very personal dimension to this tragic eppisode.


First_Name:
Brian
Last_Name:
Baker
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Baker
E_Mail:
Aviprep@aol.com
Date:
Monday, January 28, 2002
Time:
12:42 PM

Comments

I have a relative in Arkansas who has completed a lot of research in our family. She referred me to this site. She was at the dedication on 9/11/99. Her Email address is Mary1616@aol.com

We are working on the research now, but as for now, it is believed that I have married into a family that connects both sides. My wife may be a descendent of the Mormon side. In fact, we are sure she is, but we are locating the documents to prove it. This would make our five children descendents of both sides of the massacre. If this is true, it would be the first family link to both sides of the event that we know of.

I visited the site for the first time on Jan 17, 2002, and I have to say that I got goose bumps when I saw the meadows for the first time. My wife and children visited as well. We hope there will be some kind of ceremony that will mark 150 years in 2007.

My family will contribute all we can to research and doing something productive for the MMA effort to improve the site. I would like to thank the MMA for their efforts and to all the volunteers who have done, and are continuing to do a great job.

I am related to John T. Baker.

P. S. Until our research is complete, I will withold the family names that my wife is a descendent of. There are two names involved.


First_Name:
Dave
Last_Name:
Woods
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
woodsy1342002@yahoo.com
Date:
Wednesday, January 23, 2002
Time:
03:55 PM

Comments

I have not yet taken time to read the contents of the page I have viewed. I am doing a college history term paper about the MMM, and am presently just searching the web for sources on the event. I have saved this page to disk (from a computer at a public library), and will read the contents on my computer at home. Due to problems with viruses on the home computer, my home computer is temporarily disconnected from the Internet. But, I can still do research, etc., from the library, or at the college. If you can make any recommendations of specific sites to view, books to read, or other sources on the subject of Mountain Meadows Massacre, or John Doyle Lee, please e-mail those recommendations to me. (I check my e-mail at least three times a week, from the computers at the college). Meanwhile, I will read what I have saved, and will probably be contacting you again at a later time.


First_Name:
Sherry
Last_Name:
Shafer
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Laffoon
E_Mail:
aniwodi2@yahoo.com
Date:
Monday, January 21, 2002
Time:
05:44 PM

Comments

Thankyou for the way you have built this beautiful memorial to our families.I found out about the Masacre on the internet.


First_Name:
Tonya
Last_Name:
Smit
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Vger67@excite.com
Date:
Sunday, January 20, 2002
Time:
01:11 AM

Comments

I was born in Arizona, and lived there 30 years. I moved to Utah in 1997, after my maternal grandmother died so that my mother wouldn't have to bear it alone. I had never heard of the Mountain Meadow Massacre before, and I did not learn of it until I had been here THREE YEARS!! I have always had a very low opinion of Mormons and it hasn't improved despite my discovery that many of my ancestors were Mormon Pioneers. There can be no justification for what the Mormons did that day; and no "forgiveness" until the LDS Church admits they are guilty of this atrocity. Brigham Young may not have sanctioned it, but the fact that he did NOTHING after learning of makes him just as much a murderer as those who actually took those innocent lives.

That the Mormons would rather keep this part of their history in the shadows should not come as a surprise to anyone. They don't want to admit that they are anything but perfect. You should see them turn white as sheets whenever another one of their "Holy" Bishops or "perfect" church members is charged with child molestation.

Why do I still live in Utah? Three reasons. 1) My Mom is here. 2) 60% of my genealogical interest is here. 3) If I move, THEY WIN.

I applaud you and your web site, and all that you do with it. I have two web sites, one genealogy and one (are ya' ready?) dedicated to Utah. I will be placing a link to this site on BOTH of them.

No longer shall the secret be kept.......


First_Name:
kirby
Last_Name:
hickman
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
kirbyhickman@netscape.net
Date:
Friday, January 18, 2002
Time:
04:50 PM

Comments

most mormons, i think, don't even know about this tragic murder of innocent people by lds members.


First_Name:
Carin
Last_Name:
Reddig
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Lee
E_Mail:
waverly94@earthlink.net
Date:
Friday, January 18, 2002
Time:
02:15 AM

Comments

Many people try to find a reason for what happened at Mountain Meadows. Mormons did not have a very easy time in the early days of this country. Most do not know that Mormons were forced to leave their settlement in Missouri after the governer made it legal to kill them. There is another lesser known massacre that took place in Missouri at Haun's Mill. My Grandfather was there and he saw his home and his farm burn... As they fled Missouri thousands died on their way to Utah. None of this justifies what was done later in Utah, but it certainly puts it in perspective. The American frontier was a brutal place. I am just glad that now, members from both sides of the tragedy at Mountain Meadows have found reconciliation. PEACE.


First_Name:
ronald
Last_Name:
mitchell
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Date:
Wednesday, January 16, 2002
Time:
03:13 PM

Comments

you guys are doing a great job,keep up the good work.


First_Name:
Ronald
Last_Name:
Wright
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Prewitt
E_Mail:
ronw@bendcable.com
Date:
Monday, January 14, 2002
Time:
12:31 AM

Comments

William and John Prewitt were my Great-great grandmother's brothers.


First_Name:
Vernon
Last_Name:
Hixon
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Owens
E_Mail:
Hixoncv@cs.com
Date:
Sunday, January 13, 2002
Time:
07:51 PM

Comments

My great great grandfather was William Nephi Owens. He was about twelve years old when the event took place. He was the child that stayed in Utah, although there may have been another one. He was given to the Robert and Katherine Owens family and raised by them until his late teens when he came to Idaho. I would appreciate any information possible about him. I don't know what his original name was, but I do know that he was born in Kentucky.


First_Name:
Lynne
Last_Name:
McCoy
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Backwoodslynne@aol.com
Date:
Saturday, January 12, 2002
Time:
03:18 PM

Comments

I read a novel Fancher Train, and then another book called Red Water....I wanted to find out more of the facts and reasons for all the hatred and fear that led to this awful event....I appreciate this site and the information it has provided There are no words for what happened. But, by bringing light to the horrors, we can hope never to repeat them and can learn to live together.


First_Name:
David
Last_Name:
Beller
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
Beller
E_Mail:
Lybotis@aol.com
Date:
Friday, January 11, 2002
Time:
04:53 PM

Comments

I was searching the Beller name and found this site and it is very interesting it well be on my favorites list. Thank you.


First_Name:
sean
Last_Name:
kato
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
Date:
Thursday, January 10, 2002
Time:
12:14 PM

Comments

I'm sad to hear this happenned to these arkansa people and especially of the same faith.May you be rested.


First_Name:
Douglas
Last_Name:
Dunlap
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Dunlap
E_Mail:
sattleup@yahoo.com
Date:
Wednesday, January 09, 2002
Time:
01:06 PM

Comments


First_Name:
Greta
Last_Name:
Houston
Family_Related:
Don't know
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
grbh@hotmail.com
Date:
Sunday, January 06, 2002
Time:
06:49 PM

Comments

This story has touched my heart and has to make me ask the question, Why? If you look at this story and the also the story of the 9-11 tragedy, you see there are some similaritys. Not the least is the conflict of religion. Why?


First_Name:
Ron
Last_Name:
Johnson
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Nephi
E_Mail:
rondjohn@earthlink.net
Date:
Tuesday, January 01, 2002
Time:
10:36 PM

Comments

My direct ancestor was Benjamin Franklin Johnson. I haven't quite figured out his relationship to Nephi, but I think he was either a nephew or more likely a cousin. I just finished reading "My Life's Review" by B.F. Johnson and I learned of the powerful forces affecting the early Morman pioneers in Utah. My father just died in mid December 2001. He was a Morman, but not active. I am not a Morman. But my Dad was always proud to be a descendent of B.F. Johnson and so am I. We have had quite a month because my Mother was also in the hospital at the time of my Father's death. While at the hospital, I picked up a copy of American Heriatage and saw the article, "What Happened At Mountain Meadows?" and now I am even more interested in learning about the times when my g.g. grandfather B.F. Johnson lived. He never said anything about the murders at Mountain Meadows in his book, My Life's Review, but he certainly must have know about it. As a former and now retired US history teacher, I am pleased that your organization is composed of both sides of the descendents of the murders and looking for the truth and most importantly working together to bring hatreds and misunderstandings to a close. If this could only be the same in Bosnia, Afganastan, the middle east and other nations around the world.

Ron Johnson


First_Name:
Henry
Last_Name:
Buschman
Family_Related:
No
Family_Name:
E_Mail:
bussmann@srv.net
Date:
Tuesday, January 01, 2002
Time:
05:32 PM

Comments

Facts about the truth of this tractic moment in our country's past should be reveled by those that clearly know and have the power to do so.


First_Name:
Rhett
Last_Name:
Mays
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Mays
E_Mail:
rhettmays@hotmail.com
Date:
Tuesday, January 01, 2002
Time:
12:47 AM

Comments

Though I didn't find him on your memorial list, it is commonly told in my family that my ancestor, I believe his name was John Skelton Mays, was a scout on the trip. He left a homestead in Searcy County, AR to go west. If this rumor has any evidencial support I would be pleased to know.

 
First_Name:
Frances
Last_Name:
Gardner
Family_Related:
Yes
Family_Name:
Miller
E_Mail:
its2fran@aol.com
Remote Name:
198.81.26.39
Date:
Saturday, May 17, 2003
Time:
08:22 PM

Comments

We visited Mt. Meadows in 1999 before the monument at the top of the hill was repaired (we found it lying face down) and before the mass grave was repaired. Elsewhere it was a sunny day in April, but at the Meadow it was cold and rainy, the location isolated... we felt like we were stepping into another world... It was easy to imagine the tragedy that had taken place there. I had just discovered my Miller ancestry, and with it this awful story. Josiah Miller was brother to my great-great-great grandfather, Felix Grundy Miller, who had come ahead separately to California, and so was spared... I wrote a song about it! I would enjoy contact by Miller relatives/descendants. Does anyone have information on the children who survived the Massacre? Our geneology goes back to the days of the Massacre but then the trail is lost - can you help? Thanks and blessings to all.